Roger WHISSELL

Family/Spouse: DESPATHIES. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Napoleon married Sophie DINEL on 20 Jan 1908 in Cheneville,,,QUEBEC,,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Mariage St-Andre Avellin, Quebec:
Le vingt huit novembre mil huit cent soixante trois, nous cure soussigne, apres publication de trois bans faite au prone de nos messes paroissiales, entre Joseph Whissel cultivateur domicilie en cette paroisse fils majeur de Zacharie Whissel cultivateur et de Marie Desloges, d'une part. Et Marcelline Sauve dite Laplante domiciliee a Hartwell, veuve majeur en premieres noces d'Alexandre Rodier dit St-Martin, d'autre part. Ne s'etant decouvert aucun empechement a leur mariage, nous avons recu le mutuel consentement de mariage des epoux, et leur avons donne la benediction nuptiale, en presence de Casimir Tremblay et d'Emerey Villeneuve, qui ainsi que les epoux ont declare ne savoir signer.

Joseph married Marcelline SAUVE-DIT-LAPLANTE on 28 Nov 1863 in St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,,. Marcelline (daughter of Basyle SAUVÉ-DIT-LAPLANTE and Marie HOT) was born about 1843. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

It is said that the Whetsels came from Alsace. Could this be Alsace Township in Pensylvania?

Check out for possible Whetsel, Wesel, etc
Vol 1 and Vol 2 of "Gravestones of Glengarry" by Alex W. Fraser, U.E.
Volume I published 1976 ISBN 0919303080
Volume II published 1978 ISBN 0919303250

George Wetzel listed in the 1790 Virginia Census p 64 Shenandoah co.
Abram Freeland listed in the 1790 Virginia Census p 78, Surry Co.

George Whezel listed in the 1790 Pennsylvania Census p 36 Berks Co.
There is also Lower Alsace township in this county, formerly Alsace co.
Other Wetzel found on p 36, 37, 179, 176
Also interesting is that three is Benjamin Freeland listed in Washington co. p 249.

Visit the US 1790 Census at http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.htm

Whitehall, Washington co., New York state, formerly called Skenesboro

From: Francis T. Watters
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:07 PM
To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [QUEBEC] Whissel family - originally from Alsace

The first Whisell who came to Canada was Zachary Whesel, born about 1810 in
New York state, s/o George Zachary Vesel. George Zachary Vesel emigrated
from Alsace to the US around 1780-1790. Whether he was a Hessian or not is
not stated in the book that I have (La fascinante épopée de
Saint-André-Avellin, by Jacques Lamarche, Editions Petite-Nation, 1996).
But I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps he could be George Vensell, or
Wentzel who is listed in John's book "Guide to help you find your Hessian
Soldier of the American Revolution", pg 86 although that Vensell may have
settled in PA and not NY. John might be able to provide more info on that.

Zachary Whesel settled in Alexandria, Ont. where he married Eva Fischer.
>From Alexandria he moved to St Andrews East, Que. He raised four boys (the
article doesn't mention any girls): Stephen (Etienne), Frederick, Samuel
and Isaac. Etienne's grandson moved to Papineauville, and the latter's son
to St André-Avellin.

Other link to Wentzel family from Nova Scotia "http://www.qcis.ns.ca/wentzell/guest.html"

Bapteme St Andre Avellin:
Le quatorze juin mil huit cent cinquante huit, nous cure soussigne, avons baptise Zacharie, ne le seize mai(mars?) mil sept cent nonante, du mariage legitime de George Whissel, cultivateur, et de Sophie Freeland, dans la cite de Whitehall (Etats Unis d'Amerique). Le Parain a ete Edouard Leduc ecuyer, maire de la municipalite de St-Andre-Avellin et la maraine Louise Seguin, qui ont signe avec nous.

G A Proulx

Ed Leduc
L Seguin

Certificat de Mariage 27 Juillet 1856, St-Andre-Avellin

Le vingt sept juillet mil huit cent cinquante six, nous cure soussigne, vu la despense de trois bans de
mariage accordes en vertu des pouvoirs que nous avons recu de sa Grandeur Mgr Jos. Eug. Bruno Guigues,
Eveque de Bytown, entre Zacharie Whissel dit Sacarai, fils majeur de feu George Whissel, cultivateur et de Sophie
Freeland de la paroisse de St Andre Avellin, d'une part et Marie Desloges, fille majeure de Joseph Desloges
cultivateur et de Marie Dupuis, aussi de cette paroisse d'autre part, aucun empechement ne s'etant apporte a ce
mariage, nous avons recu le mutuel consentement des deux epoux en presence de Eustache Turpin, pere, bedeau,
et de Gabriel Cere, pere, qui n'ont pu signer leurs noms.

Saint-André

Registres 1818-1882: microfilm M128-54 (ANQM)

Sepulture St-Andre Avellin:

Le dix neuf septembre mil huit cent soixante six, nous cure soussigne avons inhume dans le cimetiere de cette paroisse le corps de Zacharie Whissel cultivateur domicilie en cette paroisse, decede au meme lieu le dix sept du courant a l'age de quatre vingt ans et cinq mois. Etaient presents Georges Whissel son fils, Emery Villeneuve et Francois Bourgeois qui ont declare ne savoir signer.

From: "Elaine Brown"
Subject: [Q-R] Germain Poirier aka Pierre Germain Whessel b. c. 1820
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:37:22 -0500

I'm following up on a lead given to me by Gary Boivin about the spouse of my
great-grandaunt Alice Burns. She married Germain Poirier I figure sometime
around 1845 as their first child Amable Germain Poirier was baptised 31 Jan
1847 at St. Alphonsus, Chapeau, Pontiac Co. with sponsors Bernard Byrn and
Mary Cahill. There isn't a record of their marriage from 1846 onward.

The story goes that a lady named Marguerite Treganning has written a book in
French in which she says a family named Whessel came to Canada and the
parents died aboard ship. The youngest lad Pierre Germain Whessel was taken
in / adopted by a Poirier family west of Montreal. Since the Poiriers
already had a son named Pierre he used his middle name of Germain. He was
never again seen by his 2 much older brothers who were placed near
St-Andre-Avellin, Quebec (Petite Nation, Papineau, Co). There is apparently
a record that shows that he married an Irish girl with the last name of
Burns.

After a search on the Internet the only place I could find for the name
Whessel was at St-Andre-Avellin so possibly the older brothers kept their
names???

Can anyone help me further with this mystery please? Is Whessel a French
name? certainly Pierre and Germain are French names. My only other clue is a
photo of Amable which shows him to be about 6' 5" with long white hair and
beard.

Thanks for any help,

Need to visit the museum for http://www.museumsusa.org/museums/info/1155278 for ancestors of Zachariah Whissell


From: Ian Hendry
Date: March 16, 2010 at 12:50:49 PM EDT
To: Paul Antoine Lavoie
Cc: 'Robert Whissiel' , karel
Subject: Christopher Whiessiel

Dear Paul-Antoine,

Thank you very much for getting back to me. The mystery of our ancestor, Christopher Whiessiel, has been a part of family lore for as long as any of us can remember. I am very excited to hear that you too have heard the tale of the “7 brothers”. Since you have had no idea of our Christopher it makes the connection all the more intriguing. I have copied this email to my cousins, Dr. Robert Whissiel of Seattle, Washington, and Ms. Karel Horsley of Toronto. They have been researching the family name for decades and have been a true inspiration to me on this journey.



Although it is difficult to say exactly where Christopher was born, the many censuses that he shows up in have him of German or French heritage. His son listed his birthplace as New York in the United States Census of 1880. My grandmother always told me his name was Christopher Lucius Addison LeMab Fischer Whiessiel. He was from a family of United Empire Loyalists, he was the 7th son of a 7th son, and that all of his brothers came to Canada as lumbermen.



Based upon your record indicating Zacharie’s father was named George, I did some “surfing” on the internet and found an intriguing record. There is a Georg(e) Wissel listed in a immigration record showing him coming to North America as a Hessian soldier in the Brunswick regiment. That regiment was stationed exclusively in Quebec and upstate New York. In fact, they fought in the Battle of Skenesborough! The record shows that he came to an unknown port in 1776 and that he was born in 1751.



If George had stayed in North America, it would be very probable that he would have been in the Skenesborough area at the end of the war, or he could have come back there at its conclusion. There were several British forts in the area. However I can find no records of a George Wissel or Whissel (or Whiessel, Wizel, etc.) for that matter.



I also find the St. Andre-Avellin connection intriguing. There is a death record for a Z. Josephe Whissel in Russell Ontario (I’ll look it up and send it to you) - - I think she died in about 1882. She was born in St. Andre-Avellin. Could this be Zacharie’s daughter? Christopher’s family, and another family of Whissel’s that I believe to be Christopher’s brother (or nephew?) Mathew’s family all lived in Russell for a number of years. It is such a small village that I have to believe they would have been related in some way with a name like Whissel.



I look forward to further correspondence,



Sincerely,



Ian B. Hendry



______________________________



Ian B. Hendry

1887 Cowden Avenue

Memphis TN 38104

901-276-2340

901-299-3305 (cell)

assenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
about Georg Wissel
Name: Georg Wissel
Year: 1776
Age: 25
Estimated Birth
Year: abt 1751
Place: Port uncertain
Source
Publication
Code:
8560
Primary
Immigrant: Wissel, Georg
Annotation:
From the Staatsarchiv at Wolfenbuettel, Germany, where file 38B Alt.
Nr. 260 is a summary list of Brunswick mercenaries sent to America in
British service during the American Revolution. The detachment served
mainly in Canada and northern New York. Most o
Source
Bibliography:
SMITH, CLIFFORD NEAL. Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the
American Revolution. (German-American Genealogical Research
Monograph, 1.) Thomson, IL: Heritage House, 1973. [54p.]
Page: 47

According to the 1861 census, he stated he was born in Lake George, Warren Co. New York in 1790.

According to his baptism, he stated he was born in the city of Whitehall, New York.

Only 25 miles separate the2 cities. There is an obvious connection between the two. This is shortly after the American revolution. Was his father George a participant in the revolution?

Zacharie married Marie DESLOGES-POIRIER on 27 Jul 1856 in St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,,. Marie (daughter of Joseph DESLOGES-DIT-POIRIER and Marie DUPUIS) was born on 23 May 1804 in Vaudreuil(Ste-Madeleine), QUEBEC; died on 16 May 1865 in St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,,; was buried on 18 May 1865 in St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,,. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Basyle married Marie HOT. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]